why do so many support desks operate this way. we can websearch for things just as well as they can ! I have a Fortigate 50E (6.0.8) with 2 WAN connections (both DSL unfortunately from the same ISP), I have both connected and PPPoE set on both - both up appearing as connected networks (ppp1 and ppp2) in the routing table, I have 2 static default routes, circuit A (wan1) with distance and priority 10 and circuit B (wan2) with 20, I have a policy route which says incoming interface LAN, source IP of my test PC, destination any, forward traffic out wan2 (circuit B), I have a policy which allows all traffic from this this test PC on the lan to go to the internet using wan2 (this policy is ahead of the policy which allows general lan traffic to the internet through wan1)[/ul]. Help shape the future of Fortinet! To enable the feature, go to System, and then to Feature Visiblity. The Forums are a place to find answers on a range of Fortinet products from peers and product experts. The debug flow will show it if RPF is dropping the traffic. However when I configure it that way, I cannot get the firewall policy the be matched when testing. In my opinion I can see that Outbound Ping is working because the SD-WAN box is configured properly to handle Outbound Many-to-One NAT (or what is known as PAT). The policy route table, therefore, need not include a "default route" for packets that do not match your policy because those packets can be forwarded to the default route set in the static route table. There is one 1:1 NAT rule which translates SRC IP 172.14.198.2 to public routable IP, let's say 1.1.1.1, but that's not that important here. This is a small example on how to configure policy routes (also known as policy-based forwarding or policy-based routing) on a Fortinet firewall, which is really simple at all. PBR on my Fortgate is not working as expected but rather kind of odd. Policy Based Routing does not work as expected, fortigate 5.2.11. I often find that I can Google up info better than what they have on hand. edit 11 That part works without any problem. In addition I have couple of PBR rules that route traffic sourcing from specific subnet to another specific route to an interface. Review this document for detailed explanations of different scenarios. 03:24 AM, The cli cmd diag debug flow is your best friend in this issue, 2: I would review the output especially any lines that says routes or policy or lookup, Created on This topic focuses on FortiGate with a route-based VPN configuration. I would update the lab firewall to v5 and then call support with the scenario. That traffic is sent to a NetScaler SD-WAN box which is deployed virtually inline. I think my favorite is #5, blocking the mouse sensor - I also like the idea of adding a little picture or note, and it's short and sweet. That packet arrives to firewall with DST IP in subnet 172.14.192.0/22 and SRC IP from remote subnet 172.60.80.0/24. If that NAT is configured properly then it should have a corresponding VIP configured on FG to further translate the incoming traffic to other local subnets/hosts, with suitable inbound firewall policies to allow this traffic. Bonus Flashback: Back on December 9, 2006, the first-ever Swedish astronaut launched to We have some documents stored on our SharePoint site and we have 1 user that when she clicks on an Excel file, it automatically downloads to her Downloads folder. The distance must be the same so that both routes are installed in the routing table, but the priority can be set lower on the wan1 circuit so that traffic only hits that unless it hits your policy route. Its like the appliance simply saying "why would you even want to go via that interface when the destination is right here" Its by design and cannot be circumvented. edit 10 FortiGate looks for matching firewall policies from top to bottom and if the match is found the traffic is processed based on the firewall policy, if no match is found the traffic is dropped by the Default Implicit Deny firewall policy. I have also in routing table a route to 172.60.0.0/16 pointing to IPSec VPN to remote site, but I can't see how it could eventually interfere with more specific routes? 40.0 -> 10.0 via VPN(fortigate ip is 192.168.10.254) . 10-23-2017 With auxiliary-session enabled in config system settings: Starting in 6.4.0, the reply traffic will not match any policy routes or SD-WAN rules to determine the egress interface and next hop. If anyone needs to know the firmware versions on my test firewall its V4 MR3 patch 10 (its just a noddy 50B) and for our production appliances (if it ever gets that far) its V5 GA Patch 4. If auxiliary session is enabled, the traffic will egress from an interface based on the . In addition, the configuration directs any outgoing . That part works without any problem. So I would first investigate this Inbound NAT configuration on the SD-WAN box as most likely this is the place of fault. set gateway 172.14.198.2 I am uncertain on how exactly to set up the Policy Route, since I think it is actually "return" traffic that would not be able to find its way back to the originating source-IP?I currently have: Incoming Interface: The interface containing IP 172.16.50.10 and 172.31.16.10, Source Address: 172.16.50.0/24 and 172.31.160.0/24 (also tried "all" ), Forward Traffic to Outgoing interface $name_of_ipsec_interface. FAZ VM Returning traffic is getting back to SD-WAN box the same way, after being decapsulated its sent back to firewall. I've been a bit of a lurker here on spiceworks for some time but now have a question that I cannot find an answer to on the notorious interweb ;). The FortiGate continues down the policy route list until it reaches the end. When I set a static route for traffic to 10.100.0.0/16, this policy matches when I do a policy lookup. Moreover, I need t o conf igure an ent ry wit hin Policy-based rout ing t o specif ically redirect Of f ice net work t o use DSL line. Please could you explain it a bit more? Is this a bug or I lack some configuration? Created on After processing is finished FortiGate forwards the packet towards its destination. FortiWeb's Static Routes configuration directs outgoing traffic based on packet destination. 10-15-2017 some FAP 210B/221C/223C/321C/421E, Created on 03:40 AM. A client request destined for the virtual server 2.2.2.2 arrives from the client with the IP address 4.4.4.4. You need a policy Route, which is different than your standard routing. and on a separate physical interface on the same firewall. It's an outer/perimeter FW installation, one Internet breakout, couple of interface based IPSec VPN terminated. set dst "172.60.99.0/255.255.255.0" lets invent some imaginary IP ranges to simplify the question . NetScaler SD-WAN encapsulates the packet and the new packet has SRCIP 172.14.198.2 and destination is some public address of another NetScaler SD-WAN box on remote site, let's say 2.2.2.2. Created on Also when host from local subnet 172.14.192.0/22 sends ICMP packet to host subnet on remote site 172.60.80.0/24, the packet is by PBR sent to local NetScaler SD-WAN (172.14.198.2). set input-device "port1" How to configure policy-based routing in the Fortigate firewallPBR explained with a scenario 09-12-2020 ;) (Compared to my other PBR/PBF tutorials from Juniper ScreenOS and Palo . By default, FortiGate provisions the IPSec tunnel in route-based mode. 01:01 AM. If one or both of these are not specified in the policy route, then the FortiGate searches the routing table to find the best active route that corresponds to the policy route. 10-23-2017 next I apply a PBR to an incoming internal interface that is configured with a route to 192.168.20./24 via B and then a default route to 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 via C. If traffic from the internal interface has a destination of 192.168.10./24 will it use the default 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 route in the PBR and send it via C or the static route and send it via A. This version adds policy route look up support and prioritizes it over static/dynamic (normal) routes when doing route lookup . set src "172.14.192.0/255.255.252.0" Will post back here if I get any results! Whenever I do anything on this machine, all the traffic still uses wan1. This topic has been locked by an administrator and is no longer open for commenting. However, some environments require you to also use the Policy Route settings to route outgoing traffic based on source IP address, the incoming interface, or both. The system evaluates policy routes, then static routes. I believe that possibly due the source and dest VLANS being on the same physical interface that the appliance is recognising this and will always look for policy between the 2 rather than use an alternative route. All the various vdoms are linked to the root vdom, and have no issue communicating via vdom links. NetScaler SD-WAN decapsulates that packet and sends it back to local host. So private IP addresses going outbound via the SD-WAN will have the SRC address translated to 1.1.1.1 (if my understanding of the setup is correct). For example, a FortiWeb has a default static route that forwards traffic for any destination to 1.1.1.254, which is the gateway for ISP1. I'm trying to get policy routing working in which case traffic from one device will always use a specific wan circuit while all other traffic uses the other wan circuit but it doesn't seem to work. and created 2 policy routers 1st one PBR for ISP1 for VPN traffic and 2nd one PBR for Certain Vlans users and working but 3rd PBR one single vlan is not working. However, we need to check the SD-WAN box for Inbound NAT. Do you know how to make this scenario working with Fortigate? VPN and i place my fortigate on 10.0 planning to route 40.0 to 70.0 using the internet. I have a firewall policy in Proxy-Mode that allows traffic from the IPsec tunnel interface to the interface that has 172.31.160.10 with source 172.16.50.0/24 and destination the named VIP. Configuring Policy-based Routing on Fortigate Login t o Fort igat e under an administ rat ive account Click Router on t he lef t side menu, select Policy Routing On t he t op of t he right pane, click Create New . i am stuck in the same problem, i have 3 IPs links , i have created 3 default routers to each ISP connections. The existing Policy Check and Route Check features in FortiOS 6.0 exclude checking against the Policy Routing engine. If I start pinging from a remote site it doesnt go through, but if I start ping from local site at the same time, then suddenly, remote ping starts to get replies! The following Policy Route settings fix this asymmetric routing issue by directing outgoing traffic based on the source IP. . Because all incoming traffic for virtual server 2.2.2.2 arrives on the IP2 gateway 2.2.2.254, you configure FortiWeb to route all replies from 2.2.2.2 to that gateway. I've had a little play about with NAT and PBR in my lab and am currently struggling to get what appears to be a fully working solution. In this video, I'm going to configure Policy Based Routing, the scenario is the following:All traffic will go out through the main ISP (ISP1), except for SSH. The following Policy Route settings fix this asymmetric routing issue by directing outgoing traffic based on the source IP. Returnig packet has DST IP 1.1.1.1 (after NAT 172.14.198.2) and source 2.2.2.2. When one session is initiated from remote site, traffic does not come through. Was there a Microsoft update that caused the issue? Scenario is 2 DMZ/VLAN on the same physical interface. Due to order of processing on the device it will always route traffic between 2 directly connected interfaces/VLAN using the policy rules between them. I have FGT300D running firmware 5.2.11. That part works perfectly when communication is initiated from local site. So if remote site (2.2.2.2) starts pinging (1.1.1.1) which is the SD-WAN box Public IP, we need NAT rules to translate the destination address to the range (172.14.198.x) which is the local subnet between SD-WAN box and FG firewall. For example, if your FortiWeb receives traffic from more than one gateway, it is possible for request and reply packets in the same TCP connection to use different gateways (asymmetric routing), which can break the connection. set input-device "port1" When I remove the Static Route, it does no longer match (as expected). FortiGate Firewall Policy . Computers can ping it but cannot connect to it. To continue this discussion, please ask a new question. im quite confuse how will it work. https://kb.fortinet.com/k.do?externalId=FD32103, The Fortinet Security Fabric brings together the concepts of convergence and consolidation to provide comprehensive cybersecurity protection for all users, devices, and applications and across all network edges.. Hi everybody Policy based routing & SD-WAN policy based routing. Policy-based routing can correct this problem by ensuring that replies to clients use the same interface as the original request. I see that traffic coming back to NetScaler SD-WAN. The solution was a /32 static route for just the remote firewall's IP, still using the tunnel device (seems weird/wrong), and then a broader policy-based route sending . Does anyone have an idea of how to set up these policy routes. I did not do that before because I did not see the option for Additional IPs on the IPsec interfaces. Is it possible to create rules with features like NAT/PAT and policy based routing (PBR) to achieve the following. If no routes are found in the routing table, then the policy route does not match the packet. Routing is static only. 10-19-2017 As of FortiOS 5.x, our policy-based routing supports matching the following attributes to determine which output-device to use when starting a session and routing packets . 10-25-2017 10-14-2017 Or it does not until I initiate ping from local to remote host. You are trying to accomplish Scenario 5 I believe. 07:01 AM. Destination IP address in returning traffic is known to firewall and finds its way back to initial source. Example shown in this slide is default static route which means all subnet (0.0.0.0/0) traffic will go via port 1 by using gateway 10.0.3.1 if no matches found in the . did you try a specific PBR route for your Netscaler ? In your case it would be from internal 192.168.16.10/24 to 10.10.64.12/24 over interface DMZ vlan 33 (if i understand your question correctly) You also need a policy to allow your traffic (from internal to dmz) flag Report. set gateway 172.14.198.2 So I'm trying to make a policy route to ensure that only traffic from certain interfaces goes over the IPsec tunnel. Because all incoming traffic for virtual server 2.2.2.2 arrives on the IP2 gateway 2.2.2.254, you configure FortiWeb to route all replies from 2.2.2.2 to that gateway. If you don't have a static or dynamic(rip,ospf or bgp) route in the routing table for172.60.80.0/24 &172.60.99.0/24 then the traffic originating from the remote site might be getting dropped because of the anti-spoofing. When such packet comes to firewall it goes out normally following the default route in routing table. The pool members reply contains the destination provided by FortiWeb (4.4.4.4) but not the interface associated with the request. Well it turns out that the scenario I was postulating cannot be provided by a Fortinet appliance. Created on . It could be an issue with RPF for the traffic originating from the remote site. (I say get to v5, because otherwise that will be the first thing they say). The packets are routed to the first route that matches. Only one single configuration page and you're done. Traffic from VLAN 1 to VLAN 2 routes via VLAN 3 as gateway and appears to originate from VLAN 3, the ultimate goal here is for client connections from VLAN 1 to all appear to come from VLAN 3 and consume existing policy rules from VLAN3 to VLAN 2 and indeed many other DMZ's withou the need to add many many rules between VLAN1 and all other DMZ's. I've done the configuration for policy routes to push traffic . Its like the appliance simply saying "why would you . I came across this thread (which is little old) however I thought to add this comment in case it will help anyone reading the thread. (put it at top level), So packets from Netscaler are not sent anymore to itself, 3 FGT 60E When reply traffic enters the FortiGate, and a policy route or SD-WAN rule is configured, the egress interface is chosen as follows. next I have FGT300D running firmware 5.2.11. Welcome to the Snap! However, I can not find the way to instruct the Fortigate to work in a similar manner. However unfortunately this does not work it seems. Turns out, it was because one of the remote networks being routed to also contained the site to site VPN destination IP. 12:31 PM. I need to replace that static route with a policy route, however, due to a conflicting IP range. To configure Policy-based Routing on Fortigate, you must know this information: source network/host (incoming interface), destination network/host . We have a Windows XP computer (don't ask) with network shares that, as of yesterday, are no longer reachable by other computers on the LAN. if you have any solution please. config router policy For example: traffic from the client to the servers enters the FortiGate on either port1 or port2, and a policy route is defined to match traffic that is sent from the servers' subnet to port2. set dst "172.60.80.0/255.255.255.0" I'm pretty new to using Policy Based Routes as we've previously always used static routes.However now we have an IPsec tunnel where the remote network overlaps with another network for which we already have static routes configured. Yes, 1st / 2nd line support is frustrating! Mar 21st, 2014 at 6:56 AM check Best Answer. A community for Fortinet users to help each other with products, share best practices and to share feedback directly with the R&D team. Created on Any user ccessing internet from LAN will first check policy based routing if ip matches packet will be send to policy of secondary link as per policy if traffic is 80 and 443 is allowed nd . end, Remote subnets are 172.60.80.0/24 and 172.60.99.0/24, Local NetScaler SD-WAN sits on its own subnet 172.14.198.0/24 with IP address .2, Local interface on firewall connected to internal core switch, port1. Policy based routing is not applicable and only works where traffic matching particular criteria needs to go via a specific gateway or server outside of the appliance. Using the Static Route settings only, FortiWeb routes the reply to gateway 1.1.1.254 for all destinations, which does not have the correct state information for the TCP connection. IP => stop policy processing. Policy Routing on a FortiGate Firewall. e.g SMTP to a mail relay or SNMP to a monitoring network. My vote goes to this being potentially the issue. But when remote host initiates communication and sends first ICMP packet, this packet arrives the local SD-WAN but firewall does NOT send it to local subnet!? Routing is static only. 03:36 AM, Created on If necessary, you can have FortiGate provision the IPSec tunnel in policy-based mode. In 6.2, this is added, and new options are available in the GUI to support further testing scenarios. Basically traffic sent by PBR rules is being encapsulated (gets new DST IP, SRC IP is now SD-WAN) and sent it back to same the interface of firewall, but then due to new source and destination IP in new IP header, it simply follows the routing table. In. The problem is that this works only when the traffic is initiated from the local site where my firewall is. The distance must be the same so that both routes are installed in the routing table, but the priority can be set lower on the wan1 circuit so that traffic only hits that unless it hits your policy route. Static Route: Manually configured route, when you are configuring static route, you are telling Firewall to see the packet for specific destination range and specific interface. You are trying to accomplish Scenario 5 I believe. The Fortinet Security Fabric brings together the concepts of convergence and consolidation to provide comprehensive cybersecurity protection for all users, devices, and applications and across all network edges.. Created on That is rather not problematic. Due to order of processing on the device it will always route traffic between 2 directly connected interfaces/VLAN using the policy rules between them. Policy-based routing initially did not seem to work. Created on Not sure I understood what you meant with NetScaler sending packets to itself and how that could help firewall to do its job? - wan1 & wan2 are 2 different ISPs on DHCP, and are bundled into SD-WAN- sd-wan serves traffic to home via port 19/20 on a LACP bond. Policy-based routing can correct this problem by ensuring that replies to clients use the same interface as the original request. 11:03 AM. In addition, the configuration directs any outgoing traffic from the virtual server with an IP address 1.1.1.1 (which receives traffic over the default gateway) to the default gateway: Fixing asymmetric routing problems with policy-based routing. I have raised a ticket with Fortinet and am currently working my way through the frustrating 1st/2nd line support that seem to think that sending weblinks is always the answer.. sigh! 10:45 PM. Does that mean that I can get rid of the "services" interface on the Fortigate and add the 172.16.50.1/24 IP on the actual IPsec tunnel interface? 04-17-2019 I would appreciate any feedback on this before I waste too much time trying to proof of concept this capability. 09-12-2020 Hi everybody PBR on my Fortgate is not working as expected but rather kind of odd. Your daily dose of tech news, in brief. Flashback: Back on December 9, 1906, Computer Pioneer Grace Hopper Born (Read more HERE.) On the static routing it is not required so I didn't think Policy Routing required it. Copyright 2022 Fortinet, Inc. All Rights Reserved. you can also create a rule with Netscaler IP and dest. However, the appliance also has a virtual server with the address 2.2.2.2 that receives traffic from the ISP2 gateway, which has an IP address of 2.2.2.254. Review this document for detailed explanations of different scenarios. However, the appliance also has a virtual server with the address 2.2.2.2 that . For example, a FortiWeb has a default static route that forwards traffic for any destination to 1.1.1.254, which is the gateway for ISP1. I live in hope that a real engineer will eventually take the ticket and give me an answer based on actual knowledge of the appliances in question. Copyright 2022 Fortinet, Inc. All Rights Reserved. set src "172.14.192.0/255.255.252.0" The Forums are a place to find answers on a range of Fortinet products from peers and product experts. 01:32 PM. Nothing else ch Z showed me this article today and I thought it was good. In reverse proxy mode, FortiWeb opens a connection to the server pool member on behalf of the client. It's an outer/perimeter FW installation, one Internet breakout, couple of interface based IPSec VPN terminated. The return traffic will not be checked against the policy route. Well it turns out that the scenario I was postulating cannot be provided by a Fortinet appliance. 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